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Grymmstorm Kings of Groth Likes received: 15 | I have been looking for a PVE fit for a Gnosis all day. I can only find PVP fits, though! Does anyone have a PVE fit for an Alpha clone set of skills? Most likely Minmatar. |
ColdCutz Frigonometry Likes received: 165 | I'd probably go with something like this: [Gnosis, PVE Sansha + Blood (Alpha Clone)] 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Acolyte I x5 It gets up to about 298 dps with low skills. Nothing to write home about, but pretty versatile against all rats with its even resist profile. The faction/deadspace hardeners, other than EM and Adaptives, are pretty cheap at around 5 million for the Dread Gurista ones, and kind of necessary for fitting. It's cap stable with either the repper or the microwarp running, but not both. Ideally, only use the microwarp to move to the next gate after the room has been cleared. |
Gregorius Goldstein Queens of the Drone Age Likes received: 2,734 | #3 -2016-12-07 10:21:33 UTC|Edited by: Gregorius Goldstein I use a similar fit, only one more DDA and one less BCS because I trained Tech II Drones. And a Core Probe Launcher for Combat Sigs instead of the Auto Targeting System. (You may have to downgrade form Arbalest to Malkuth launchers depending on skills because of CPU needs.) ColdCutz wrote: I'd probably go with something like this: [Gnosis, PVE Sansha + Blood (Alpha Clone)] 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Acolyte I x5 It gets up to about 298 dps with low skills. Nothing to write home about, but pretty versatile against all rats with its even resist profile. The faction/deadspace hardeners, other than EM and Adaptives, are pretty cheap at around 5 million for the Dread Gurista ones, and kind of necessary for fitting. It's cap stable with either the repper or the microwarp running, but not both. Ideally, only use the microwarp to move to the next gate after the room has been cleared. |
Grymmstorm Kings of Groth Likes received: 15 | Thanks guys, I will look at those fits when I get home. I know one guy has good drone skills, but not able to use them because of Alpha status. I don't know if the other guy has any drone skills or not. He may have to stick with Cruisers or Dessies, as he has less than 5m SP I am sure. |
Casandra Laur Bleu Femme Felis Likes received: 25 | 19 days, whoo ho, so far so good. I know you said you were Minmatar, maybe you could use turrets. Here's my current fit for my Gnosis: rigs High Mid Low 4 Tech I Drones, maybe Integrated, (takes 8 days for Drones V), (Alphas cannot use Tech II Drones) Right now my total DPS is 420, 85 from drones, 335 turrets, 1209 volley. I have 20,000+ EHP, and my shield boost rate is 70hp/s. As I keep training skills this will only get better, and I think this will eventually be OK for L3s. -Cassy |
Xephos Talvanen S.C.P Likes received: 0 | Thanks for sharing this, I can use it later on. |
Sara Starbuck Adamantine Creations Likes received: 86 | Amarr and Gallente alphas have passable drone skills, Minmatar and Caldari ones have barely any afaik. |
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263 | I think gallente and amarr get the best alpha gnosis thanks to being able to use medium drones 50% damage buff on the hull is huge, plus the ability to fit several drone damage amps. Also railguns and beam lasers are decent weapon systems. Caldari at least get railguns which are pretty decent on their own, but the stunted drone skills are something of a bother. Also HMLs seem to have gotten way over nerfed, rails pretty much out dps hml to lock range. HML can barely just hit outside of gnosis lock range, so adding a sensor booster doesn't really make sense, although with my rail boat I can at least hit out to ~100km, sure the dps is really low at that point but I can still hit out there. minmatar have projectiles and hml, doesn't seem like a happy combo. They are alright, but I'd rather go with a different race. @ChainsawPlankto on twitter |
Thursday Park-Laine Queens of the Drone Age Likes received: 65 | Chainsaw Plankton wrote: I think gallente and amarr get the best alpha gnosis thanks to being able to use medium drones 50% damage buff on the hull is huge, plus the ability to fit several drone damage amps. Also railguns and beam lasers are decent weapon systems. Caldari at least get railguns which are pretty decent on their own, but the stunted drone skills are something of a bother. Also HMLs seem to have gotten way over nerfed, rails pretty much out dps hml to lock range. HML can barely just hit outside of gnosis lock range, so adding a sensor booster doesn't really make sense, although with my rail boat I can at least hit out to ~100km, sure the dps is really low at that point but I can still hit out there. minmatar have projectiles and hml, doesn't seem like a happy combo. They are alright, but I'd rather go with a different race. Projectile Weapons aren't that bad on an Alpha Accounts. More cap for your tank and prop module. Damage is selectable and applies better than lasers or hybrids. I use Autocannons with Depleted Uranium ammo. Most things die at fallout range while I keep MWD and Reper active. |
Grymmstorm Kings of Groth Likes received: 15 | With a fairly cheap fit ~150m ISK, including ship, I've managed an AC fit Gnosis with about 370dps offense and about 240dps tank against mostly kinetic/thermal damage. Using Gallente, I've managed about 450dps with about 160dps tank. The problem with tanking Gallente is that you can't do it and have a bunch of damage upgrades as well. The Minmatar one is fully cap stable with the MWD off, and about 3.5 minutes with MWD on. The Gallente one is about 18 minute cap with MWD off and like 3 minutes or less with it on. Going full ****** with a 1.4b fit Gnosis as Minmatar you can get a nice 495dps tank with similar offensive output as well...I have not tried the full ****** Gallente setup yet. |
Casandra Laur Bleu Femme Felis Likes received: 25 | I am really sorry to say this, but after looking at many of the ships in EVE, I see many nice ones. Many nice ones I cannot fly. The Gnosis, I'm told, can be used in many different ways. It's the biggest ship I can use for PVE, and as an Alpha I'm stuck with it. But, oh God, I hate looking at the darn thing! It looks like a fish! It looks like a fish being eaten by another fish! I mean that's really disgusting. I'm new and just starting out, but I cannot live with that ship. I think I'm going for Omega. -Cassy |
Inir Ishtori Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 104 | #12 -2016-12-09 00:24:34 UTC|Edited by: Inir Ishtori Grymmstorm wrote: With a fairly cheap fit ~150m ISK, including ship, I've managed an AC fit Gnosis with about 370dps offense and about 240dps tank against mostly kinetic/thermal damage. Using Gallente, I've managed about 450dps with about 160dps tank. The problem with tanking Gallente is that you can't do it and have a bunch of damage upgrades as well. The Minmatar one is fully cap stable with the MWD off, and about 3.5 minutes with MWD on. The Gallente one is about 18 minute cap with MWD off and like 3 minutes or less with it on. Going full ****** with a 1.4b fit Gnosis as Minmatar you can get a nice 495dps tank with similar offensive output as well...I have not tried the full ****** Gallente setup yet. Eh, for your Gallente Alpha all you need is to go for shield tank and put some damage mods into the lows - that should be doing quite okay, i think. [Gnosis, schild pithum c type booster MWD 3x MSF 2x TE] Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Lead Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II 'Integrated' Hammerhead x5 It needs a 2% PG implant for 6-8 mil. Tank seems appropriate for LvL3 missions, damage is okay too. |
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263 | Thursday Park-Laine wrote: Projectile Weapons aren't that bad on an Alpha Accounts. More cap for your tank and prop module. Damage is selectable and applies better than lasers or hybrids. I use Autocannons with Depleted Uranium ammo. Most things die at fallout range while I keep MWD and Reper active. in my testing cap isn't an issue. Neither is application, nearly everything flys in at low transversal and gets shredded by my 250mm railguns. I haven't used my minmatar character yet, but the range on an ac gnosis just looks unusable, and the dps is just sad. Want to try testing this fit out, probably buy a skill injector for my gallente alpha. Been flying a similar caldari set up (no med drones though) and it has been working pretty well. I'm thinking the bump in drone abilities will be a nice boost for the gallente character. Also want to try it with beam lasers on an amarr character, beams get very nice dps and range. don't like using CCC rigs, I'd rather get the warp speed or optimal, from my rigs. can get plenty of cap from a cap booster. [Gnosis, Alpha Drones rails cap booster] Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5 @ChainsawPlankto on twitter |
Sara Starbuck Adamantine Creations Likes received: 86 | Thursday Park-Laine wrote: Projectile Weapons aren't that bad on an Alpha Accounts. More cap for your tank and prop module. Damage is selectable and applies better than lasers or hybrids. I use Autocannons with Depleted Uranium ammo. Most things die at fallout range while I keep MWD and Reper active. Generally on autocannons you only use the 3 shortrange ammos since the actual optimal increase/penalty wont matter on autos, and you gain more damage and 3 different damage types on EMP, Fusion, PhasedPlasma. Now if you use artillery then in some cases uranium and titanium sabots are ok choice. |
Grymmstorm Kings of Groth Likes received: 15 | Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Thursday Park-Laine wrote: Projectile Weapons aren't that bad on an Alpha Accounts. More cap for your tank and prop module. Damage is selectable and applies better than lasers or hybrids. I use Autocannons with Depleted Uranium ammo. Most things die at fallout range while I keep MWD and Reper active. in my testing cap isn't an issue. Neither is application, nearly everything flys in at low transversal and gets shredded by my 250mm railguns. I haven't used my minmatar character yet, but the range on an ac gnosis just looks unusable, and the dps is just sad. Want to try testing this fit out, probably buy a skill injector for my gallente alpha. Been flying a similar caldari set up (no med drones though) and it has been working pretty well. I'm thinking the bump in drone abilities will be a nice boost for the gallente character. Also want to try it with beam lasers on an amarr character, beams get very nice dps and range. don't like using CCC rigs, I'd rather get the warp speed or optimal, from my rigs. can get plenty of cap from a cap booster. [Gnosis, Alpha Drones rails cap booster] Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5 That is a pretty good damage output from the fit, but the tank is pretty low if you are doing anything big. Also have the chance to run out of cap boosters if you are in a long mission. Just don't understand the need for warp speed boost. |
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263 | when running most level 3s you will spend more time in warp than in mission, also there aren't really any must have rigs so extra warp speed seems to be the best choice there. I do like the locus rigs as they give more projection, but with low engineering/rigging skills it looks like it is hard to fit more than one without sacrificing something more important. gank is tank, I have level 4 fits with less tank, the thing is they do 1k+ dps and can melt the rats before damage becomes a problem. The shield booster is mostly there to top off, with three hardeners incoming shield damage should be pretty low. I've run most lv3 missions in the caldari pool with 2x invluns, I've found one mission where I find it worthwhile to change hardeners. If I had more dps I might not need to change hardeners, but with caldari alpha skills it is hard to clear the waves fast enough to repair. gnosis has a huge cargo hold, can carry plenty of cap boosters for level 3s can hold more cap boosters than my lv4 battleships. @ChainsawPlankto on twitter |